Why they talk so openly in the emails is that they genuinely believe they were sort of at this untouchable class and that nothing could happen to them.

Countless gigantic Roman Catholic profiles, for example, were using this as a supposed proof that Pope Francis, I kid you not, had hacked and taken down Epstein.

In fact, quite the opposite.

It suggested that this person who was connected

Epstein also had a Vatican passport. So that's undermining the legitimacy of the Vatican. And he said back in

2006 in his book, Reef History the Future, we're going to create a global interlinked brain.

It will be the gallum of the Jewish Kabbalistic mythology. So who's really at the top?

Who's really pulling the strings and what is their ultimate goal?

Someone who's been on the case of answering

those questions specifically for many years

is Jay Dyer, and he joins us today

to dig into this eyes wide shut

real-life conspiracy.

Jay Dyer, thank you so much for joining us today.

We appreciate you being here. Thank you, Maria. Always loved chatting with you. It's a great,

deep conversation every time. Absolutely. One of the, well, the main reason we're talking today again is that I know that you've been putting a tremendous amount of work into

the Epstein files. You've been one of the most relentless streamers and researchers on these files.

And so it's going to be really interesting to get your perspective. I want to start with your tweet here.

Eyes wide shut is proven real, puts the famous Rothschild Mask to ball photos in a new light,

given the Epstein files. This has been the means of control for a long time.

So before we zoom in on to specifics, Jay, talk to us about the zoomed out 40,000 foot view of the files. Yeah, I think what it really confirms is something that I read

2003, so over 20 years ago, I read a book on ritual abuse in the Catholic Church by William

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