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🗓️ 13 October 2025
⏱️ 86 minutes
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Paula Pant introduces her innovative FI-I-R-E framework, which encompasses Financial Psychology, Increasing Your Income, Investing, Real Estate, and Entrepreneurship. The discussion emphasizes the critical role of financial psychology in shaping one’s financial decisions and behaviors. Paula's approach aims to inspire excitement about personal finance by promising financial independence and work optionality, challenging traditional views on spending and earning. The episode is filled with practical insights and actionable strategies for enhancing financial mindset and exploring entrepreneurial opportunities.
Episode Highlights:
Introduction to FI-I-R-E Framework
Understanding Financial Psychology
Increasing Your Income
Investing Principles
Entrepreneurship vs. Self-Employment
Conclusion and Resources
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Chuzafi. Today in the show, we have Paula Pan, the host of the Ford |
| 0:04.8 | Anything podcast and a great friend of the show, a great friend of our community. And she has come up |
| 0:10.9 | with a new framework around the acronym FIRE. However, hers is F-Double I, RE. So it's fire with two |
| 0:19.5 | eyes. It stands for financial psychology, increasing your income, |
| 0:23.5 | investing, real estate and entrepreneurship. And Paula walks the walk. She's been in this community |
| 0:29.4 | for as long as I can remember. And she's one of those people who just oozes credibility. |
| 0:34.4 | And I love this new framework. I love how much time we spent on each of the five |
| 0:38.5 | pillars of this framework. And I think you're really going to enjoy this episode. It has a lot for |
| 0:43.1 | everyone. And I think no matter where you are on your path to FI, you really truly are going to get |
| 0:47.9 | something out of this. And with that, welcome to choose that five. |
| 1:01.3 | All right, Paula, welcome back to choose that five. |
| 1:02.3 | It is so good to see you. |
| 1:03.7 | Oh, thank you so much. |
| 1:04.5 | It's good to be here. |
| 1:05.3 | It's good to see you. |
| 1:06.9 | Yeah, it has been a long time. |
| 1:12.7 | I think the last time we saw each other was when I flew up to New York to do the 500th episode. |
| 1:18.3 | I think 501st episode also before anything. Yes, yes. That was so much fun. You came to New York. |
| 1:26.5 | We recorded live in Brooklyn at a comedy club in Brooklyn in front of an audience. We had got so many tickets. |
| 1:30.0 | We sold out tickets so quickly for the 500th episode that we added a second recording just so we could accommodate the demand. So we recorded |
| 1:34.6 | episode 500 and 501 on the same night, live in Brooklyn. And now, as of the time that we're |
| 1:42.3 | recording this, we are currently at episode, let me check, 64. |
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