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Always Come Back to the Why | Alan and Katie Donegan | Ep 569

ChooseFI

Brad Barrett | Choose FI Media

Financialindependence, Investing, Firemovement, Passiveincome, Frugalliving, Personalfinancepodcast, Daveramsey, Careers, Business, Earlyretirement, Habits

4.85K Ratings

🗓️ 20 October 2025

⏱️ 89 minutes

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Summary

Brad, Katie, and Alan Donegan discuss the significance of understanding the "why" behind pursuing financial independence (FI). They delve into their journey, emphasizing the importance of community, intentional spending, and lifestyle design. Listeners are encouraged to confront their fears of rejection when building friendships and to embrace vulnerability for meaningful connections. The Donegans advocate for tracking spending to align financial choices with personal values, reshaping the narrative around saving into one focusing on buying freedom.

Chapters:

  • Introduction to the Donegans’ Journey (00:00 - 01:55)

    • Overview of where the Donegans are currently living and their latest adventures.
  • Building Community and Friendship (03:20 - 06:24)

    • The significance of joining local ChooseFI groups to foster connections.
    • Overcoming the fear of rejection and expanding your social circle.
  • Monthly Finance Meetings (45:12 - 51:01)

    • The importance of having regular financial discussions with a partner to evaluate spending and financial goals.
  • Tracking Spending (51:01 - 54:41)

    • How tracking spending drives awareness and better financial choices aligned with personal values.
  • Flexibility in Lifestyle Design (54:41 - 01:24:43)

    • The concept of geo-arbitrage and adjusting your lifestyle to lower costs.
    • Emphasizing the importance of understanding the philosophy behind financial independence to enhance life experiences instead of simply focusing on multiplication of wealth.

Key Quotes:

  • "Stay focused on your core purpose." (01:24:43)
  • "Live life enjoyably, not just to save." (00:46:58)
  • "Everything good in life comes on the other side of being vulnerable." (00:09:11)
  • "The quickest way to be interesting is to be interested." (00:13:01)
  • "Understand your core motivation." (00:45:47)

Actionable Takeaways:

  • Join Local ChooseFI Group - Participate in meetups to connect with like-minded individuals. (Timestamp: 00:06:03)
  • Track Your Finances Monthly - Enhance your awareness of spending and align it with your values. (Timestamp: 00:45:12)
  • Engage with Others - Foster connections by asking questions and showing genuine interest. (Timestamp: 00:13:01)

Discussion Questions:

  • What is your personal "why" for pursuing financial independence? (Timestamp: 00:45:47)
  • How can you incorporate community into your FI journey? (Timestamp: 00:03:20)
  • What steps can you take to tackle the fear of making new friends? (Timestamp: 00:06:24)

Action Items:

  • Ask someone out for coffee or a hike this week. (Timestamp: 00:41:30)
  • Review your monthly spending and identify areas for improvement. (Timestamp: 00:51:01)

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Chusify. Today in the show, we have my good friends, Katie and Alan Donagan

0:04.5

from the Rebel Finance School, and they're back for another fun, far-ranging random episode.

0:09.9

And this episode has a little bit of everything, but it ultimately surrounds always come back

0:14.9

to the why. What's that huge why? Why are we doing this? Why are we following this path to

0:20.2

FI? And it really can range from every

0:22.9

aspect of our lives. We talk a lot about Alan Katie's journey, their monthly finance meetings,

0:28.5

tracking their spending, and really, what are they spending on that adds value to their life?

0:33.1

Where can they spend less? And a whole host of other topics. I think you're really going to

0:37.2

enjoy this episode.

0:38.1

And with that, welcome to choose that fine.

0:47.6

Katie and Alan, welcome back to the show.

0:50.0

This is going to be fun.

0:50.9

I'm looking forward to it.

0:51.9

I'm so excited to be here.

0:53.3

And we have a huge list of things.

0:55.1

I was like, I have questions for Brad.

0:57.1

I need to know. Are we going to put them on the spot? Oh, yes. Oh, boy. You guys, so we did this 10 episodes ago in episode 559, where we just have a fun conversation. We have this list of random Google Doc of all sorts of different topics, and we just get into it.

1:12.7

And you two definitely brought out this. fun conversation. We have this list of random Google Doc of all sorts of different topics and we just

1:11.7

get into it. And you two definitely brought out the spicy side of me,

1:15.9

which was fun. There was a 15 minute segment in there,

1:18.9

I think from like the 44 minute mark where I'm like,

1:21.4

I was just on fire. I listened back to it. It was a good time.

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