Welcome, everybody. This is the warning. I'm Steve Schmidt. And of course, the person I'm with right now needs no introduction, the incomparable Joy Ann Reid. Welcome. We were talking in that nervous interragum when people actually get on when I have to hit the live button.

And every time I hit that button, I wait with total anxiety and nervousness about what's

going to happen next.

And I feel, right, completely hostage by the technology who's taking over everything, right?

It's one of these guys is making a move on the country.

And let me just say, I think I saw it for like 20 years coming, never liked any of these tech guys.

But when you were, when you were in high school we're like the same age like when you where

when did the first computer present itself in your life when people were like this is a computer

do you remember that i do and you know what's so wild we begged my mom uh phomena, Carol Lomaena, who, you know, I always think it's fun that

her name is Philomena and she married somebody named Loma so that she had Loma, Lema,

Lema in her name.

But anyway, we begged Philomena to let us get Atari.

You are old enough to remember.

You were similar age, so when Atari's came up, we were like, Mom, please, please let us get it.

Please let us get it.

So she finally breaks down and gets us the Atari, right?

She doesn't make a lot of money.

She's an associate professor, so she doesn't make a lot of money.

But she spends the little bit of money, buys us the Atari.

We were like mesmerized by it. And so that got me

thinking that I felt I was high tech, but when we got that Atari, we felt like the kings of

technology. But at that time, the only kind of computer interaction we had at school is they were

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