Hey, everyone, it's Andrew Claven with this week's interview with Larry O'Connor.

Last Friday, as I was supposed to get up in time to

get my show prepared, my alarm failed to go off, causing me to wake up eight minutes late, but also

causing me to miss one of my absolutely favorite living broadcasters, Larry O'Connor, who has a show

on WMAL in D.C. And when I say that, I'm somebody who really knows good broadcasters,

and he is one of them. He and I were drawn into the conservative movement together in California

by the late great Andrew Breitbart. And we hadn't common the fact that we were among the few

conservatives who knew anything about the arts. Larry worked for nearly 20 years in the Broadway theater industry

in New York and yet remained heterosexual and conservative, which is very, very difficult to do.

There should be some kind of Tony just for that. He is now, as I say, a great broadcaster on MAL,

and he's also got a town hall show as well. He has written a book for his sins.

I don't know what comes over people. I think God just punishes you by making your right books.

This is called shameless liars, how Trump defeated the legacy media and made them irrelevant.

Larry, it is great to see you. Where were you last Friday when I needed you to wake me up?

Andrew, I was there. You know, blame the clocks, blame NSA. I don't know. Maybe Tulsi Gabbard got

involved. But I'll tell you, you're right. Between staying straight in the theater business and being

conservative, both are difficult. One is harder than the other. And I'll just let your very wise audience fill in the blanks.

All right. So, listen, the subtitle of this book is called Shameless Liars, but the subtitle is

how Trump defeated the legacy media and made them irrelevant. This to me was the central takeaway

from Trump's victory that when I saw it, I felt this blanket of peace

fall over me, and I just thought, we beat them. We beat them because they just done everything.

Tell me what you have taken away, what you're seeing, what you saw that night and what you're

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