In early 2018, Ephoma Zoma was on a work trip when she got a notification on her phone.

It was an email from a recruiter at Pinterest who was reaching out about a job.

And do you remember your first thought when you saw that?

Hmm, okay.

I think that's exactly what I thought.

Okay.

Why like that?

Because I was working at Facebook and I had worked at Google.

I mean, there, and I don't know how to say this and not sound dismissive.

But like working in tech, those are the companies that people want to work up to.

And Ephoma had started at those big companies, which have way more resources than Pinterest.

Really, she was at the top of her game.

She was living in Silicon Valley and working at Facebook on their international public policy

team, which she absolutely loved.

She had no reason to leave.

But, but I will always entertain a conversation.

So Ephoma got on the phone with the recruiter who made a pretty compelling case.

She'd basically get to build Pinterest's global public policy from the ground up.

Since initially, it just be her and one other person on the team.

That's huge.

Coming from Facebook, there were probably 300, but 300 to 500, hundreds of people on the

global public policy team at Google.

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