Okay, we're alive. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates on today's show of a very special guest. His name is Dr. Harlan Olman. Published a book, December 2021, title of the book, if you're watching on YouTube, you can see the cover, is The Fifth Horseman and the new MAD of the new mad. How massive attacks of disruption became the looming existential danger

to a divided nation in the world at large. This is not his first book. He's written 12 books in

total. This book, particular book, The Fifth Horseman, and the new MAD is up for the best

national security book of 2021. Dr. Ollman is a senior advisor at the Atlantic Council,

and he can talk more about his biography. I'd just like a list, two list, a few of his books that are on Amazon.

One back in 2005 is Ows and Eagles, ending the foreign policy flights of fancy of hawks, doves, and neocons.

2009 is America's promise restored, preventing culture, crusade, and partisanship from wrecking our nation, 2004.

Very timely book.

Shock and awe, achieving rapid dominance 2012 and also a handful of bullets,

how the murder of Archduke Franz Ferdinand still menaces the peace in 2014.

But again, we're going to talk about this book you just recently published.

Title again is The Fifth Horseman and the new MAD,

how massive attacks of disruption became the looming existential danger to a divided nation in the world at large.

And it's Dr. Harlan Olman.

So Dr. Ollman, welcome to the show.

William, I appreciate being on your show.

Excellent.

So for people, it's an important time to discuss really critical issues that I think are being

not discussed enough and not well enough understood.

Excellent.

So I'm really glad you take the time out of your day to talk about this book

in the context of current events. But for people who may not have heard your background,

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