Tadden, it's got the code. It's going to launch.

It's a unit system. I know this.

It's all the files of the whole park. It tells you everything.

Sir, he's uploading the virus.

Eagle One.

The package is being delivered.

I don't know why that's so satisfying to hit that button and just have that play and broadcast.

Maybe it reminds me of running soundboards for musicals in high school.

I don't know.

But I do like it.

Hello out there in Cyberland.

Encrypted messaging apps. We all love them. You don't have to be doing anything shady to want to make your messages

end-to-end encrypted. And for most people, there's dozens of options. Signal, wicker,

even WhatsApp boasts end-to-end encryption. Uh, but what if you need something a little more secure?

Well, that's where companies like Sky Global and Phantom come in.

These companies cater to a more discerning clientele with a need for a more secure messaging

environment, which is part of how they got into so much trouble with the feds.

So with us today is motherboard journalist Joseph Cox, and he's going to

tell us about his newest feature, Crime Boss or Tech CEO, an encrypted phone company, sues the

government to save itself. I'm Matthew Galt, and this is Cyber. J.C., so thank you so much for

coming on to the show once again and walking us through some of your reporting.

Yeah, absolutely. Happy to go into it.

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