The Fediverse Experiment
Search Engine
PJ Vogt
4.8 • 5.1K Ratings
🗓️ 9 January 2026
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
Our present version of the internet is arguably the worst it’s ever been. Which means – any shot at changing things, even an unlikely one – is worth trying out. Three podcasters who’ve spent years critiquing social media companies try to build their own small alternative social media.
A collaboration with Hard Fork’s Kevin Roose and Casey Newton: join The Forkiverse here.
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| 0:00.0 | The Hello and welcome to a new year. |
| 0:27.7 | Search engine's big resolution for 2026. |
| 0:30.4 | We are looking at ways the internet could actually be fixed. |
| 0:33.8 | The problems with our internet are so well known, it feels dumb to summarize them. |
| 0:39.2 | Like, who is the person left alive who needs me to explain to them that our 2026 internet is |
| 0:45.0 | dominated by a few social media platforms who are brilliant at harvesting our attention |
| 0:49.5 | by appealing to our worst instincts? We all know this. |
| 0:57.0 | We've all experienced the kind of gooner's remorse |
| 1:00.0 | after we've spent more time than we meant to, |
| 1:03.0 | mindlessly thumbing a feed that makes us feel worse about ourselves, |
| 1:06.0 | our friends, the world. |
| 1:08.0 | So it's cliche to complain about, |
| 1:10.0 | this problem that's only gotten worse for the |
| 1:12.1 | last decade. But this week, this year, we're talking about it because we are curious about solutions, |
| 1:18.5 | even possibly quixotic ones. And in that spirit, I actually want to revisit a moment that an earlier, |
| 1:26.2 | maybe more cynical version of me, |
| 1:27.8 | tried to brush past on our show. |
| 1:29.9 | It first came up on air way back in May of 2024. |
| 1:33.5 | I was interviewing Casey Newton, co-host of the Hard Fork podcast, the writer behind Platformer. |
| 1:39.0 | We were having a depressingly familiar conversation about the internet. |
| 1:43.1 | And I asked Casey whether there was anything hopeful around the corner, |
| 1:46.8 | anything that made him feel optimistic. |
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