It's better to not have it than to have it and lose it.

Because when you have it, you live it, you know what it feels like.

And when you lose it, the blows hard, right?

Step into the world of success with your brand amplified, the ultimate podcast designed to unravel the intricacies of thriving businesses.

I'm your host, Onica Jackson, and I'm on a mission

to uncover the stories, strategies, and secrets that have propelled entrepreneurs and business leaders

to success. It is a true honor and privilege to have Kvon K on the show. Beyond all of the things we've just been talking

about with your business success, everything that you do to help others, your athleticism and history

of that and how that ties into some of the work that I do, I am trying to get where you are. You've been

in the top three U.S. Apple Marketing Podcasts for a very long time. I broke the top 10

finally in the past months and go back and forth a little bit. But I was like, oh, this is so cool.

I've never interviewed anyone else who's been in this top, you know.

I get it. Right? Like this we're kind of make our way up there. But it's gray. Yeah. Yeah. So Kvon,

thank you so much for giving me your time today. Yeah, no worries. I'm happy to be here.

Well, before we get into Pitch Me, which is your podcast, I want to talk about your business story

and your history of working in sales, working in different areas, and then when was that pivot point?

True. When I went, full entrepreneurship from basically sales. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.

It's funny. My story, I think it's no different in terms of typical entrepreneur salespeople, right, written off by the school system, told that you're never going to make it.

ADD, ADHD.

I mean, they labeled me with like five different learning disabilities, all that, right?

So from, I always said, like from a young age, I was put into a position of sales, you know,

if we went to really deeper in psychology of protection to protect my little, you know, little child,

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