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WSJ Opinion: Potomac Watch

The FBI's Arrest of Wisconsin Judge Hannah Dugan

WSJ Opinion: Potomac Watch

The Wall Street Journal

Society & Culture, News

42.7K Ratings

🗓️ 29 April 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

The feds charge a state judge with helping an illegal immigrant evade ICE agents at the courthouse in Milwaukee. Is this an overreach by the Trump administration or a justified response to a violation of the law? Plus, amid President Trump's deal with El Salvador and new confusion about the circumstances of three deported U.S. citizen children, two polls suggest slipping public support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:13.4

experts with impact. From the opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal, this is Potomac Watch.

0:23.6

Federal agents arrest a state judge in Wisconsin, accusing her of helping an illegal immigrant evade arrest at the courthouse in Milwaukee.

0:32.9

What happened, and is this an overreach by the Trump administration or a justified response to a violation of the law?

0:40.2

Welcome, I'm Kyle Peterson with the Wall Street Journal.

0:43.4

We're joined today by my colleagues, editorial board member Colin Levy, and columnist Kim Strassel.

0:49.9

On Friday morning, FBI agents arrested Hannah Dugan, a judge on the Milwaukee County Circuit Court since 2016, bringing quick alarms from the left about attacks on democracy and the judicial system.

1:03.8

Here is White House spokesman Carolyn Levitt during the press briefing yesterday explaining the administration's view.

1:10.1

Let's be clear about what this judge did.

1:12.3

She obstructed federal law enforcement who were looking for an illegal alien in her courthouse.

1:17.5

She showed that illegal alien the door to evade law enforcement officials.

1:21.3

That is a clear-cut case of obstruction.

1:23.9

You don't have to be a lawyer to understand that.

1:26.1

And so anyone who is breaking the law or obstructing

1:28.7

federal law enforcement officials from doing their jobs is putting themselves at risk of being

1:34.1

prosecuted, absolutely. Colin, let's start with the facts. What does the Trump administration say

1:38.9

that Judge Dugan did? And does it seem to fit the law that she's being charged under?

1:43.5

Yeah, Kyle. I mean, I think so.

1:45.3

I mean, I think this is really a pretty clear cut case.

1:48.0

I mean, you know, as we just heard, there was evidence that Judge Dugan intentionally tried to shield the immigrant, Eduardo Flores-Rouise, from the ICE agents that were waiting in the hallway by ushering him out the back door instead of through the regular hallway where the agents were waiting.

2:05.3

According to the criminal complaint against her, that amounts to obstruction of an official proceeding, you know,

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