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The November Solo Show, what else would it be about

other than so below the event Austin and I held

with my neighbor Avalon in Melbourne this past weekend.

And I guess I'll give you a little bit of an origin to why we landed on this as a particular topic area and it relates to Austin being at a previous

astrological conference this year and sort of generally realizing that the time has come on both the astrology side and

magic side, there's interest on both ends of that for where these things overlap because obviously spoiler alert from an historical

perspective the overlap is approximately a hundred percent right so at

the interest on the astrology side at the conference was quite

fascinating. They're obviously I would say the majority of the people there had a background in astrology rather

than magic and you could see very specific questions coming up so I'd mentioned some

grimoas and that asked which ones are they or what was it and towards the end because I could see the sort of lean forward

realization that a lot of people were looking to form a coherent initial opinion of magic.

So I could hear scribbling down when I recommended real magic by Dr Dean Radin,

he's been on the show, as a good starting place if you want to form a coherent

opinion about why you should well at least have an opinion about magic right and

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