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Cautionary Tales with Tim Harford

The Father of Space Travel

Cautionary Tales with Tim Harford

Pushkin Industries

History, Society & Culture

4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 28 July 2023

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Cautionary Conversation: Did a Nazi put America on the moon? To celebrate the launch of his mini-series on the V-2 rocket, Tim Harford sits down with Pushkin’s resident V-2 expert, Ryan Dilley. They discuss the so-called “Father of Space Travel”, Wernher von Braun, and satirist Tom Lehrer’s musical lampooning of him.

A three-part mini series on the V-2 rocket is available now for Pushkin+ subscribers. We’ll be back again on August 4th with a brand new episode of Cautionary Tales on the main feed.

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0:00.0

Hello, Tim Halford here, and please allow me a brief moment to share some news about a fellow

0:05.2

Pushkin podcast. This season on revisionist history, Malcolm Gladwell, is diving into one of the

0:11.6

most infuriating corners of American life. Guns. The six episode series looks at America's gun

0:19.1

problem through topics such as TV Westerns, the assassination of Robert Kennedy, and the insanity

0:25.4

of the Supreme Court. The series begins on August 31. You can binge listen to all six episodes early

0:32.8

and ad-free by subscribing to Pushkin Plus on Apple podcasts, or by visiting pushkin.fm-plus,

0:41.9

or you can hear the episodes each week in the revisionist history podcast feed.

0:47.5

Pushkin

0:57.2

In the final months of the Second World War, the Nazis began to use a dreadful rocket powered

1:02.6

bomb. It traveled faster than the speed of sound, which meant that you couldn't hear it coming.

1:08.8

One moment you were queuing up at a store or enjoying a pint at the pub, and the next moment,

1:14.5

well, there was no next moment. It was a cruel, spiteful weapon.

1:19.8

Technologically, it was a miracle. But economically and militarily, the V2 rocket was a total

1:26.4

disaster for Nazi Germany. How did this terrible weapon come into existence? Why were so many of the

1:33.9

people it hurt, not the people you might expect? And what lessons can we learn from the V2 rocket

1:40.4

even today? I'm very excited to introduce my new three-part series on the V2 rocket,

1:47.5

in which I investigate the answers to those questions. All the episodes are available now,

1:52.6

ad-free for Pushkin Plus subscribers. But the mini-series was inspired by former and founding

2:01.1

cautionary tales producer Ryan Dilly, the OG producer of cautionary tales. Ryan is also a resident

2:07.9

V2 expert, and while I've been able to cover the rocket weapon in depth, I haven't yet had the

2:13.0

chance to geek out with Ryan on the topic. And today, Ryan Dilly joins me. Welcome back to cautionary

2:19.2

tales, Ryan. It's so lovely to be back on the other side of the glass in the studio part rather

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