The fate of federal heat safety rules under Trump
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🗓️ 25 June 2025
⏱️ 17 minutes
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Summary
Many Americans are enduring a brutal heatwave this week. For those who work outside, the heat can be deadly. On today’s show, we’ll check in on a proposed heat safety law that would require employers to offer more breaks when the temperature rises above a certain threshold. Under the Trump administration, the law’s future is uncertain. And, the housing market can’t seem to break out of its slump. Plus, the lengths some Americans will go to score some Indian mangoes.
Here’s everything we talked about today:
- "Heat Injury and Illness Prevention in Outdoor and Indoor Work Settings Rulemaking" from the Occupational Safety and Health AdministrationÂ
- "As U.S. Sizzles, Business Groups Push Back on OSHA's Heat Safety Law" from Inc.
- "Heat Safety Experts behind OSHA Rules Were Laid Off, which Could Make It Easier to Scrap Regulations" from Scientific American
- "Trump’s OSHA Nominee Has a History With Heat and UPS Drivers" from The New York Times
- "U.S. New Home Sales Slump as High Mortgage Rates Persist" from The Wall Street Journal
- '"You'll never be ready to buy a home"' from “This Is Uncomfortable”
- "New York City is using ranked choice voting in its Democratic mayoral primary. Here's how it works" from AP NewsÂ
- "What you need to know about ranked choice voting" from “Make Me Smart”Â
"The Perilous Business of Importing Indian Mangoes to the U.S." from The New York Times
Got a question for the hosts? Email makemesmart@marketplace.org or leave us a voicemail at 508-U-B-SMART.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everybody, I'm Rima Grace. Welcome back to Make Me Smart, where we make today make sense. |
| 0:10.8 | And I'm Kimberly Adams. Thanks everyone for joining us. It is Wednesday, June 25th. |
| 0:16.0 | Yes, today we were going to get into some news, then do some smiles, the usual. |
| 0:20.1 | Kimberly, what caught your |
| 0:20.8 | attention today? It's the thing that I absolutely cannot ignore if I even dare to step outside, |
| 0:27.4 | which is how ungodly hot it is outside. And, you know... What's it like over there exactly? You're in D.C. |
| 0:35.8 | I'm in Oregon, so it's very different. |
| 0:38.3 | So I'm running the dehumidifier in my apartment and pulling out something like, I don't know, 20 gallons of water out of my apartment. |
| 0:49.0 | Maybe that's exaggerating. It's probably more like 10 gallons of water out of my apartment per day, but I have to like |
| 0:54.8 | empty the dehumid of fire like every couple hours. It's a lot of humidity. It's a lot of heat. |
| 1:01.6 | And you know, God bless air conditioning for all of its, you know, impacts on the environment. |
| 1:07.0 | But, you know, my heart just really goes out to folks who have to work outside in |
| 1:12.2 | this heat. And it's so dangerous. I mean, heat, especially heat combined with humidity, can be |
| 1:18.9 | incredibly dangerous, incredibly deadly. And so towards the tail end of the Biden administration, |
| 1:24.2 | they were working on new rules to actually regulate heat in the workplace. And I'm |
| 1:32.6 | just going to read a little bit from an article in Inc. Magazine. There was a proposed rule that |
| 1:38.5 | would require employers to offer paid breaks as needed once the temperature reaches 80 degrees Fahrenheit. |
| 1:45.0 | When the temperature exceeds 90 degrees Fahrenheit, employers must offer a 15-minute paid |
| 1:52.0 | break to workers every two hours. The rule would also require companies to offer breaks |
| 1:57.0 | in either air-conditioned settings or when outdoors in shaded areas directing companies to |
| 2:02.3 | create structures that offer shade. So this is a proposed rule. Everybody knows I love a good |
| 2:08.4 | regulation. The public comment period is closed. But what's happening right now, like this week |
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