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The Rest Is History

The Fascist World Cup: Mussolini's Football Dictatorship | History of the World Cup

The Rest Is History

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4.6 • 26.9K Ratings

🗓️ 16 June 2026

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

How did Benito Mussolini’s regime in the 1930s use sport to spread his ideology and prepare Italy for war? What infrastructure and propaganda strategies did he use to make the 1934 World Cup a showcase for fascism? And, did this form of propaganda actually work? In this brand new The Rest Is History Club mini series, Dominic is joined by Paul Rouse to talk about dictatorships’ connections to football World Cups. Join The Rest Is History Club: Unlock the full experience of the show – with exclusive bonus episodes, ad-free listening, early access to every series and live show tickets, a members-only newsletter, discounted books from the show, and access to our private Discord chatroom. Sign up directly at the⁠⁠restishistory.com⁠⁠. To read our new newsletter, sign up at: ⁠⁠therestishistory.com/newsletters⁠⁠ _______ Advertise with us: ⁠Partnerships@goalhanger.com⁠ _______ Twitter: @TheRestHistory @holland_tom @dcsandbrook Video Editors: Jack Meek, Harry Swan + Adam Thornton Social Producer: Harry Balden Producers: Tabby Syrett & Aaliyah Akude Senior Producer: Callum Hill Executive Producer: Dom Johnson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, everybody. Welcome to The Rest is History. So we have a brand new mini-series for you to mark the FIFA World Cup, which is happening in the United States, Canada and Mexico.

0:19.4

So what we're going to be doing is looking at some of the history,

0:21.8

the deep history of the World Cup, and in particular, the story of how dictatorships have

0:27.2

used football and used the World Cup in particular to bolster support for their regimes. So we're

0:34.0

looking at propaganda, we're looking at the personal letters of the dictators, we'll be looking at the stories of the tournaments and how they reflect public opinion and so on, some amazing stories. In future episodes, we'll be looking at the great Brazilian team of the 1960s and early 1970s. That's the team of Palais and Gersino and all these great players. The team that won in 1970, people say the best team of all time.

0:57.7

But this was a point when Brazil had a military dictatorship.

1:00.4

So we'll be looking at how the military dictatorship of Brazil from 1964 uses football.

1:05.4

We'll be looking at arguably the most controversial World Cup of All, which is 1978, Argentina. Some of you may remember we did

1:12.8

a series about Ava Perron, and this is a factor of the sequel to that. So we'll be looking at the

1:18.0

military junta of the late 70s and how they used the 78 World Cup and the team of Mario Kempes,

1:24.0

which won against the Dutch in the final. Big, big story in Argentina. But we'll be

1:29.5

kicking off with Italy and with Mussolini's fascist regime and the World Cups of 1934 and

1:37.2

1938. So it's a really, really great subject. Now, we love our listeners. So this is a special

1:43.3

treat to mark the World Cup. Normally,

1:45.7

this episode would be a bonus episode purely for members of the rest of history club, but

1:51.2

because it is the summer of sport, we are making this first episode in the series with the

1:57.3

brilliant Paul Rouse available to everybody. And if you want to hear the rest of the series, which I hope you will,

2:03.2

you merely have to go, you know the drill, to the rest is history.com to sign up

2:07.6

and you'll get not only Paul's wisdom about Brazil in the 1960s and 70s and Argentina in 1978,

2:14.8

but you'll get all the usual things. You'll get early access to series.

2:18.0

You'll get bonus episodes and an unbelievable range of supplementary benefits.

2:23.1

So what's not to like?

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