The Fantasy and Necessity of Solidarity with Sarah Schulman
How to Survive the End of the World
How to Survive the End of the World
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🗓️ 2 May 2025
⏱️ 54 minutes
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Today's conversation is long-overdue. The sisters have been circling, admiring and inspired by Sarah Schulman for many years. Finally, they convene to discuss the particularities of solidarity, how heroism and perfectionism can hinder participation in solidarity and how historical perspectives on solidarity reveal its multifaceted nature. Schulman's new book is The Fantasy and Necessity of Solidarity.
She teaches Creative Writing (Nonfiction and Fiction) with an emphasis on manuscript development at Northwestern University. She is a novelist, playwright, screenwriter, nonfiction writer and AIDS historian.
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| 0:00.0 | I feel like you and I have been in a book conversation with each other for years. |
| 0:05.6 | And so it's nice to finally be in like a real life conversation. |
| 0:10.4 | Definitely. |
| 0:40.2 | Definitely. I'm Autumn Brown, front woman of the soul pop band, Autumn, a queer science fiction writer, a theologian, a mother of dragons, and a healing justice facilitator for social movements living on Dakota and a Nishinaabe land, currently known as Minneapolis. And I am Adrian Marie Brown, a luscious, |
| 0:48.2 | black, queer witch writer, auntie, an apocalyptic cosmic optimist, and a gardener of healing ideas. |
| 0:55.6 | I live in the land of the Shikori, Skorri, Skorra, Teskwara, Ino, and Lumbi peoples, |
| 1:01.5 | where I am currently losing the battle of breathing in springtime. |
| 1:07.6 | And this is how to survive the end of the world. |
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| 1:36.5 | I still want people to know that at some point I'm going to be posting my nudes in the |
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