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So it's okay if you don't have all the answers.

We'll figure it out together.

This is Mombrain with Alaria Baldwin and Daphne As. Hey guys, welcome back to Mom Brain.

I'm Elaria.

And I'm Daphne.

And today, who are we talking to?

And we're talking to Ava Chen today. That's right. She is an incredible business

woman and she has worn so many different hats. She was pre-med and then she was a lawyer and then she went here and there and then she ended up at Lucky

magazine and L and now she's at Instagram and she's also written some children's books that my children

absolutely love about Juno Valentine. She does collaborations with Janie and Jack,

one of my all-time favorite brands. So yeah, no, she's a fun, she's a fun one to listen to and she's like absolutely

fabulous and gives us a lot of really great product advice and travel advice.

Yes.

Yeah, you know what, I think, two things that I think are really cool about

we're gonna hear about. One is not being afraid of those transition moments and like you said

I mean the idea that she started in pre-med, became a lawyer, was hand-picked by Anawantor, has had this incredible career

in fashion across a multitude of different magazines, and then at the perfect moment realized

the next wave was digital and is now the director of fashion for

Instagram and I know you know all if you're anything like me you have bought a

million different outfits off of people that look amazing on Instagram and

or that have inspired your fashion sense to

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