The Family Behind For King & Country

Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew

Shawn Johnson + Andrew East

Society & Culture

5.0 • 39.9K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2026

⏱️ 66 minutes

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In this episode, we sit down with the chart-topping Smallbone family of For King & Country to unpack the journey behind their music, message, and mission. From their early days growing up between continents to selling out arenas worldwide, they open up about the challenges that shaped their faith and fueled their passion- along with an inside look at their upcoming music and exciting new projects 👀 👀 From brotherhood to marriage, this conversation gives a candid, behind-the-scenes glimpse into how they navigate life, love, and creativity together. It’s honest, lighthearted, and full of depth, balancing plenty of laughs with meaningful moments. Whether you’ve followed their journey for years or are just discovering their music, this episode offers a rare look at the heart, humor, and family behind the anthems. (00:00) we love a group interview (00:01) welcome to our second group interview (00:02:52) welcome to the family drama now (00:04:14) band names and death stones (00:19:20) the why behind the ambition (00:29:50) ambition and marriage and how they work together (00:35:40) do we need each other? (00:40:45) the art of working together (00:52:20) touring and what is occupying our hearts and minds (00:55:35) balancing the feels vs the present (00:58:30) do we like tour? (01:01:17) something deep and something fun Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	What's up everybody? Welcome back to a couple things interviews with Sean and Andrew. We have another
0:04.6	fun one for you today because we have a big group. We have in the studio for King and Country and their
0:10.9	wives. That's right. Luke and Courtney Smallbone as well as Joel Smallbone and his wife Mariah
0:17.2	Peter Smallbone. We had so many laughs. We did. The group interviews are becoming my favorite interviews we've do.
0:24.0	I think the dynamics are just so much fun.
0:25.8	You get to see them play off each other.
0:27.6	You learn their, they're like demeanors and their character.
0:30.8	And it was really fun.
0:33.1	I am a big fan.
0:34.2	This interview was in promotion of their new song ever and ever. And, man, we
0:39.6	weaved in between lighthearted topics and really deep topics. And I loved every second of it.
0:46.3	And I hope you do as well. If you want to find out more information about the small bones and their
0:50.1	band Forking and Country and the song that they came out with that includes all four of
0:54.7	them, which is so fun. Then we'll link that information down below. But we hope you enjoy this one
0:58.7	with the Smallbone family. Welcome to our second group podcast. We've ever done. The first one
1:03.9	went really, really well. Swimming. We've got high hopes. Yeah. No pressure. But we got to keep it
1:10.1	organized and we got to keep it, you know, respectful. We're going to pass the mic. Just don't forget the mic. Don't forget the mic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. So just if you start saying something, reach for the mic. We'll pass the mic. Let's not continue to hold the mic, though. We'll just let's pass it all. Yeah. Yeah, we could do that. We could do that. You guys are holding like pros too.
1:29.9	We kind of just,
1:30.5	we kind of just impossible. Yeah. We'll do that. We can do that. Um, you guys are holding like pros too. We kind of just, we kind of just pop that thing right off the mic stand and we're just rolling with it. So thank you. I also thought that I dressed up today, but you are super fashionable. I looked at my closet this morning and I thought we were in tandem. I thought we were going to do the right thing.
1:45.6	But here's the deal.
1:48.9	Courtney actually picked out my outfit.
1:51.1	You guys match and it's really cute.
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