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True Spies: Espionage | Investigation | Crime | Murder | Detective | Politics

The Family Affair | WW2

True Spies: Espionage | Investigation | Crime | Murder | Detective | Politics

SPYSCAPE

History, Documentary, Society & Culture, True Crime

4.73K Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2026

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Christine Kuehn grew up believing that she was part of an ordinary, patriotic American family. But in 1994, a surprising letter revealed a darker side to her ancestry; a story that began in Nazi Germany. Christine and her husband, Mark Schiponi, spent 30 years unraveling the truth - an emotional journey that brought her face to face with one of the most famous and tragic disasters in American history. From SPYSCAPE, the home of secrets. A Cup And Nuzzle production. Series producer: Joe Foley. Produced by Frank Palmer.

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0:00.0

This is true spies. The podcast that takes you deep inside the greatest secret missions of all time.

0:09.6

Week by week, you'll hear the true stories behind the operations that have shaped the world we live in.

0:16.7

You'll meet the people who live life undercover. What do they know?

0:22.2

What are their skills?

0:23.9

And what would you do in their position?

0:27.3

I'm Rihanna Needs, and this is True Spies from Spyscape Studios.

0:57.6

The stories told on true spies often begin in the heat of the action, with the echo, perhaps, of hurried footsteps down some ill-lit alley, or the cold weight of a weapon pressed against skin. But this story begins with nothing more potential than an envelope passing through a letterbox. I came home from work

1:04.2

and received the letter from California. We're in Kensington, Maryland, the year 1994.

1:12.6

Christine Keown is a mother of two, looking forward to a Friday evening with her family,

1:19.6

when she finds this envelope, with its unfamiliar scrawl, waiting for her.

1:25.6

She brings it with her to the couch, reads it once, then twice, and then sits in silence.

1:34.4

After some time, her husband Mark enters the room and asks her what's wrong.

1:41.1

Wordlessly, she hands him the sheet of paper.

1:43.9

It was from a screenwriter who was asking me about my grandfather's involvement with the Nazi party and his time in Hawaii, and I was just totally confused.

1:56.0

Specifically, the writer is researching the attack on Pearl Harbor and the role of German spies in the event.

2:04.6

Clearly, he's made a mistake.

2:07.6

Christine has never met her grandfather, but she has a wonderful relationship with her dad, Eberhard,

2:14.6

and she knows the family's story through him.

2:24.2

He said that he was born in Berlin, but they left Germany before the war, because, you know, I would ask him,

2:26.0

well, were you there during the war? He was like, no, we left before the war started.

2:28.4

We moved to Hawaii with my little brother and my sister and my parents.

2:32.6

And I had an ideal at childhood.

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