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Morning everybody. Welcome along to your free podcast for today, Tuesday, October the 11th.

Lovely Kate Garraway is just saying that there isn't an end point in her and Derek Draper.

She said it's really frustrating and she's been depressed and emotional and everything else.

I mean, he's, he is the longest suffering patient with the virus, 13 months in hospital since

March 2020. I mean, you can't believe what she has to go. How she's kept it together,

Gould alone knows. But she's keeping it together for the sake of the family and for the sake of him.

So we wish her the very best of luck. I mean, he went in in March and for ages, nothing. And I don't, 2020.

And I don't think anybody was expecting him to come out again. But he came out. But it's really

frustrating. As anybody who is listening at the moment

will tell you we did a program years and years ago on carers and um i think noel edmonds did it

for some of his christmas presents but these were children who were carers carers there was one little

girl i can't remember which part of the country she was from i think she was around about 12 and she had to get up in the morning, get her parents breakfast,

take it into them, get their clothes out and everything else. She was basically caring as a child

for her two parents, which I thought was absolutely unbelievable. So he got her a nice present. I think

they went to Disneyland and did all sorts of nice things. But, you know, so that takes up a few days. Then it's

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