This is The New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker.

Welcome to The New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Brandy. A couple of decades ago, a modestly

talented writer of outsized ego named Tucker Carlson appeared on the scene.

He was a bow tie wearing conservative, writing wise-ass profiles of George Bush and Hillary Clinton and the like,

but he became over time the voice of the aging, angry white man.

The voice of white nationalism and extremist politics.

His audience got so large that Tucker Carlson has been talked about as a presidential candidate,

a successor to Donald Trump. Then we saw his emails and his text messages disclosed in Fox's legal battle with Dominion voting systems.

Those messages made it plain that Carlson's citizen is even larger than his ego or his ratings.

In private, he actually despised Donald Trump, hated him passionately, he said.

He expressed disdain for his bosses at Fox and talked about women in the

most disgusting terms. His behavior heard Fox's case with Dominion, and we assume that was a big

factor in that enormous financial settlement. Last week it caused Carlson his perch at 8 p.m. on Fox, and he was fired on Monday.

So what does this all mean for Fox News and for the brand of a grieved right-wing politics

that Carlson most effectively championed? I'm joined now by two colleagues who are staff

writers here. Andrew Morantz follows politics in the media very closely,

and Kelifasane wrote about Tucker Carlson in The New Yorker.

Okay, about six years ago, you profiled Tucker Carlson,

and I want to get a sense from you initially how he got to where he is today. The father Cochland of the right, of the far right,

and a supporter of conspiracy theories and a great deal else. So how did he travel this path?

Is it pure cynicism, or did he actually change? I mean, it's amazing, you're right.

He did start off as a magazine journalist.

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