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The Fall Of Pitchfork, The Weirdness Of 2024 Music Festivals + A (Bad) New Green Day Album

Indiecast

Amazon Music

Music Commentary, Music, Indie Music, Indie Rock

4.6621 Ratings

🗓️ 19 January 2024

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

Steven and Ian recorded this week's episode a day earlier than normal, which means that the guys just missed the big (and bad) news about Pitchfork suffering massive layoffs and being folded into GQ. So they got together later and recorded an emergency 30-minute segment about what this all means for the fragile music media ecosystem and put it before the proper episode.

In the proper episode, they did a quick Sportscast (27:09) about the shocking rise of Steven's Green Bay Packers and the even more shocking fall of Ian's Philadelphia Eagles. They also did an update on the Fantasy Albums draft, with Ian deciding for some reason to let Steven swap in the new Faye Webster album into his lineup. Will Ian regret this decision? We shall see! (34:21)

After that, they take a look at early festival announcements for Coachella and Bonnaroo, which seem ... sort of random? Like, what is going on with these music festivals these days? They make no sense! (39:37) Then they talk about the new Green Day album out today, Saviors, which Steven thinks is very, very ... well, listen to the episode to find out which adjective applies. (57:28)

In Recommendation Corner (1:14:25), Ian talks up the incredible new album from Glass Beach while Steven hypes his recent column ranking every Radiohead album, solo album, and side project.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, this is Steve. We are, me and Ian, we're talking right now. It's Thursday morning.

0:08.4

We actually recorded our episode a day early this week. We recorded on Wednesday. And we're going to get to the regular episode here in a minute.

0:19.2

But Ian and I wanted to have a conversation here

0:22.1

about the pitchfork news. This came down, man, maybe like two or three hours after we stopped

0:30.3

recording our episode this week. We normally would have caught it, but I had to reschedule this week

0:36.9

for reasons that maybe I'll talk about next week. It doesn't seem appropriate to talk about right now, but I had to reschedule this week for reasons that maybe I'll talk about

0:38.7

next week.

0:39.2

It doesn't seem appropriate to talk about right now.

0:41.2

But anyway, for those who don't know, it was announced on Thursday, or on Wednesday, I should

0:47.9

say, that Pitchfork is being folded into GQ.

0:54.3

Both publications, of course, are owned by Conday Nest.

0:57.8

There were major layoffs at Pitchfork.

1:01.4

It's unclear to me.

1:02.8

I believe that there are still some staffers at Pitchfork,

1:06.7

but some longtime people were let go.

1:10.7

People who had been there for almost 20 years thinking of...

1:14.9

Longer than even me.

1:16.6

Yeah, people like Amy Phillips, Ryan Dombel, as well as some other staffers there.

1:21.7

Of course, Ian and I send out our support and love to those who lost their jobs this week.

1:28.5

That's a terrible thing, although they're all very talented and very experienced people.

1:34.2

I have faith and expectation that they are going to land somewhere and be just fine.

1:39.7

But the state of Pitchfork right now is in flux to say the least.

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