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Today, Explained

The fall of Ben Shapiro

Today, Explained

Vox

Politics, Daily News, News

4.310.3K Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2026

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Ben Shapiro used to be the leading voice in MAGA media. His downfall tells a bigger story of chaos and shifting allegiances in the conservative media world. This episode was produced by Miles Bryan, edited by Jolie Myers, fact-checked by Gabriel Dunatov, engineered by David Tatasciore and Bridger Dunnagan, and hosted by Noel King. Commentator Ben Shapiro at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Argentina. Photo by Tomas Cuesta/Getty Images. Listen to Today, Explained ad-free by becoming a Vox Member: vox.com/members. New Vox members get $20 off their membership right now. Transcript at ⁠vox.com/today-explained-podcast.⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

In the span of a decade, Ben Shapiro built the Daily Wire into a conservative media empire. He produced hit podcasts that bit at liberal excesses and documentaries and lectures about the founders, the genders, the gospels. He peddled polos, hats, candles, provided a home for deep platformed conservative stars like Matt Walsh and minted stars like Candice Owens.

0:22.2

Let's put a pin in that.

0:23.3

The Daily Wire even has kids programming, a judgmental puppet named Zoodles.

0:27.5

Zoodles!

0:28.7

Who shares Shapiro's load-bearing eyebrows.

0:31.3

This year, though, the Empire showed signs of collapse.

0:33.7

The Daily Wire's YouTube videos are down from millions of views to the low five figures.

0:38.5

Web traffic is plummeting. And recently, Shapiro laid off 13% of his employees. Asked by the

0:43.4

Washington Post, what had happened? Shapiro accused other conservatives of click whoring by embracing

0:48.8

radical Islam, theorizing about the evils of Winston Churchill and mocking the widow of Charlie Kirk.

0:54.2

The kids still got it.

0:55.2

On today, explained, the fall of Ben Shapiro.

1:00.3

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