You must have really looked up to Stephen, but I realized something when I met him.

The danger with people like him, America's super soldiers, is that we put them on pedestals.

Watch your steps, Rimo.

It becomes symbols, icons, and then we start to forget about their flaws.

Greetings and welcome into the Ringerverse, here on the Ringer Podcast Network.

I'm Mallory Rubin, co-host of Binge Mode, head of editorial at the Ringer, and it is my absolute joy and pleasure to invite you not only to MagiPoor, but to join us on this new podcast, Feed for Marvel.

And more, Superhero Story, Star Wars, all things nerd culture and fandom.

You're new to the feed, here's a very quick catch up every Friday. The Midnight Boys, Van Lathen and Charles Holmes will have their instant reaction to the latest Falcon and Winter Soldier episode.

And then I will be with you the following Tuesday to analyze the episodes, themes, dive into the newest theories, answer your mail back questions and more.

Bonus Street View this week, Van and Charles are breaking down the new Loki and Black Widow trailer for you, so be sure to check that out as well.

And there's going to be more to come, so stay tuned. How can you stay tuned, do you want to know? You can do that by following us on Twitter and Instagram at Ringerverse, joining the Ringerverse Facebook group.

And of course, following the pod on Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. Now, before we dive into today's episode, your friendly neighborhood spoiler warning.

Today's podcast features plot details from the Falcon and the Winter Soldier's third episode, Power Broker, as well as spoilers from the entire MCU run to date.

Comics can and all of it, you've been warned. Later today, I'm going to head to the timeline with Joe, me to answer your mail back questions.

But before that, I have a special guest joining me today, chat about the Zemo and Sharon returns and Power Broker to hand out some midseason awards, which I'm looking forward to because amazingly we're halfway through the Falcon Winter Soldier run already.

Who is that guest? Well, you can read her work in vanity fair and on vanity fair.com. You can listen to her Marvel analysis and interviews every single week on vanity fairs still watching the Falcon and the Winter Soldier podcast.

You can get hyped as I am for her upcoming book, co-authored with Dave Gonzalez on the complete history of Marvel Studios. It is the one and the only vanity fair senior writer, my fellow Jorah Mormon Obi-Wan Kenobi and fuck you, Fards Enthusias.

Joanna Robinson. Joanna. Hello. Oh, it's so great to have you here. I'm delighted. I'm thrilled beyond belief to be here. I can't even tell you, Mallory, it's so funny. I'm so glad you ended that intro with mention of our shared husband's.

Yes, we have a lot of them. Every time that I think I have some sort of unique crush on someone, it comes Mallory Rooman with the exact same identical crash. So here we go.

You know what? It's about the time we share a lot of passions. Some of them are stories. Some of them are fictional universes and some of them are bearded gentlemen within a can their heart. You know what I mean?

That's right. Love her redemption arc around here. You know, love it. Give me so you're give me death. Here we go. Oh my God. So you know what? I was going to mention this later, but I'll just do it right now because you mentioned so you're.

Zemo calling Bucky James. I can't help but think of Juliet calling Sawyer James. Though of course it's like the noxious inverse of that right where Juliet really wanted to help Sawyer remember who he was and could be and Zemo is of course trying to control Bucky as his pawn.

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