The Fake IDs That Saved Jewish Lives
The History Hour
BBC
4.4 • 913 Ratings
🗓️ 29 October 2017
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
How tens of thousands of Hungarian Jews escaped the Nazis by using false papers; what happened when abortion became illegal overnight in 1960s Romania; the murder of campaigning Nigerian journalist Dele Giwa; the creation of British satire magazine Private Eye; and the love affair between writers Jean-Paul Sartre and Simone de Beauvoir.
Photo: False Hungarian ID document (BBC)
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome this is the History Hour podcast from the BBC World Service with me Max Pearson |
| 0:04.9 | the past brought to life by those who were there. |
| 0:07.8 | This week the tragic consequences of Chauchescu's ban on abortion in Romania. It's a matter of shame. It's still a metal of fear. Women never talked about this. |
| 0:19.0 | Plus the 1980s murder of the campaigning Nigerian journalist Delagua. |
| 0:24.6 | The force that came towards my direction was still powerful enough to lift me up that |
| 0:30.8 | year. My glasses were, you know were off, I gained consciousness and staggered out of the wreckage. |
| 0:37.0 | Also this week, the beginnings of the satirical magazine Private Eye and the creative coupling of Jean Paul Sartre and Simone de Beauvoir. |
| 0:47.0 | It was a great love affair to me, which lasted from 1929 until 1980, 51 years. |
| 0:55.0 | But we begin with a story of bravery and survival in the latter stages of the Second World War. |
| 1:00.0 | In 1944, Nazi Germany occupied Hungary, a country which had been fighting alongside |
| 1:05.9 | the Axis powers and had relied heavily on its links with the fascist regimes in Germany and Italy. |
| 1:11.6 | The Nazi occupation came about after Hitler discovered |
| 1:14.6 | that the Hungarian authorities were negotiating an armistice with Britain and the US. |
| 1:18.8 | Up until that point Hungarian Jews had been relatively protected from the horrors perpetrated |
| 1:24.9 | against the Jews in the rest of Nazi-occupied Europe. But once the German tanks rolled in, the |
| 1:30.3 | writing was on the wall. David Gure was part of a Jewish Hungarian underground group |
| 1:35.5 | that produced tens of thousands of forged documents to save Jews from deportation to the concentration |
| 1:40.8 | camps. He's been telling Mike Lanchin about his wartime resistance efforts. When the Germans invaded Hungary I changed my identification documents to Arian. I left the flat I was living in as a Jew and started to live with a different identity as a Gentile. A few days later, the leaders of the underground Zionist youth movement told me I'd be joining a team to forge documents. |
| 2:17.5 | I became part of the biggest rescue operation during the Holocaust, run by Jews. I was 18 at the time. |
| 2:29.4 | David Gurr is now 91 years old. He's lively and clear thinking despite his age. As a young man he lived |
| 2:36.7 | through a period of extraordinary danger and drama in his native Hungary, resisting Nazi occupation. |
| 2:44.5 | It was in March of 1944 when Hitler ordered the invasion of Hungary. |
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