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Have your eyes ever felt sore and itchy after spending too much time staring at a screen?

You might have a condition known as Bixanamania, or at least that's what

several popular AI-powered chatbots might have told you if you'd asked last year.

Millions of people around the world turn to AI chatbots for medical advice every day,

often as a supplement to a doctor's visit, but also sometimes in place of it. That can

lead to dangerous consequences, and in rare cases, even death. Our guest today is Elmira

Osmanovic Tunstrom. She's a researcher at the University of Gothenburg in Sweden and at the

Selgrinska University Hospital, Center for Digital Health and

Chalmers Industri Technic. She's also the creator of Bixanamania. She says this totally made-up

disease reveals some very real problems with the way we train and use large language models.

Thank you so much for coming on to chat with us today. Thank you so much for

inviting me. So you recently did an interesting project involving AI. Can you tell us a little bit

about how you came to this idea? I work many different jobs, that one of them is in academia.

I was having lectures for students and telling students

how systems that create large language models work and demonstrating where the data comes from.

And it was interesting how few of them, how few even people within AI, understand how large

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