Welcome back to the Grove podcast, girls. It's Francesca Price, and I'm so excited to kick off our spring season with you.

If you spend any time around passion, you'll definitely recognize our guest today. In this episode,

Shelley Giglio sits down with Dr. Crawford-Loritz, a pastor, leader, husband,

father, and grandfather whose life has been marked by deep faith, prayer, and reverence for God.

Together, they have an honest conversation about legacy, how it's shaped, redeemed, and carried

from one generation to the next. Get ready to dive into the power of prayer, the importance of

repentance, and what it really looks like to stay faithful to what God has asked of us. Dr. Crawford

reminds us that the fear of the Lord isn't something to shy away from. It's what anchors us and

draws us closer to him. Whether you're a parent or someone hoping to break generational patterns,

we're simply asking, where do I begin? This conversation is for you. There is so much

wisdom here and God is ready to meet you. Let's listen in.

Where are you been recently?

Where have I been recently? I was down and Karen and we're down outside of Naples, family life honored us.

And yeah, I'll tell you what, you know.

What was the honor for? Well, I was you what, you know, what was the honor for?

Well, I was on, I was on the speaker team.

We were on a speaker team for like 30 some odd years.

And I served on the board and I needed a bunch of stuff.

And, you know, I don't know how I feel about it.

I was halfway joking with Karen.

I said, I sat on as if I was attending my own memorial service or something. So, but, uh, you know what I say about that, though, is that it's

better to share that when people are here. Yeah, yeah. Then to let people die and then I stand up at

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