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This is fresh air. I'm Terry Gross. As the face-off between Harvard University and the Trump

administration continues, we're going to talk with Harvard Law Professor Noah Feldman,

who specializes in constitutional studies and the First Amendment.

Here's what President Trump had to say last week.

Harvard is treating our country with great disrespect, and all they're doing is getting in deeper

and deeper and deeper. They've got to behave themselves. You know, I'm looking out for the

country, and for Harvard. I want Harvard to do well.

I want Harvard to be great again, probably.

He went on to say, and Harvard has to understand, the last thing I want to do is hurt them.

They're hurting themselves.

They're fighting.

You know, Colombia has been really, and they were very, very bad what they've done.

They're very anti-Semitic and lots of other things, but they're working with us on finding a solution. And, you know, they take it off

that hot seat. But Harvard wants to fight, they want to show how smart they are, and they're

getting their ass kicked. The Trump administration has frozen between two2.5.5 and $3 billion in Harvard grants and contracts.

And President Trump intends to cancel any remaining financial contracts.

The administration is also trying to stop the university's ability to enroll foreign students

and to end Harvard's tax-exempt status. Harvard is facing about

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