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TRASHFUTURE

The Fabulous Mechanical Turk ft. Phil Jones

TRASHFUTURE

TRASHFUTURE

Comedy

4.6851 Ratings

🗓️ 16 November 2021

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

We speak to Phil Jones (@philjones7771), author of Work Without the Worker, about microwork and how AI is fake, and most of it is just tiny tasks done by workers in the global south and dressed up as technology. We get deeper into how exactly how this practice developed, how its economics are rooted in overproduction, and how boosterish liberal institutions cheer-led the whole process. Get Phil's book here! https://www.versobooks.com/books/3869-work-without-the-worker If you want access to our Patreon bonus episodes, early releases of free episodes, and powerful Discord server, sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/trashfuture If you’re in the UK and want to help Afghan refugees and internally displaced people, consider donating to Afghanaid: https://www.afghanaid.org.uk/ *MILO ALERT* Check out Milo live dates here: https://www.miloedwards.co.uk/live-shows *SHIRTS ALERT* We have new Vonk shirts available to pre-order until 17 November, so get them while they're available here: https://www.trashfuture.co.uk/shop *WEB DESIGN ALERT* Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here:  https://www.tomallen.media/ Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and Alice (@AliceAvizandum)

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome back to this free episode of TF.

0:16.3

It's the free one.

0:17.8

Me trying to bulldoze that bit from happening again.

0:20.6

You won't succeed.

0:22.6

I'm on the side of some of the people on the Patreon now.

0:25.8

My mission is to kill the free one.

0:27.6

Never take the side of the hogs.

0:29.6

Now I found out that people who are paying us are telling us not to do it.

0:34.1

I want us to continue the bit more so than I think.

0:37.4

I'm very much at the Patreon

0:38.7

people. I think that we should return, yeah, reject modernity, embrace tradition, which

0:44.5

means we should bring back the intro, a classic intro. Yes. Yes. Yes. A podcast about how.

0:58.2

That makes Riley physically hurt every time someone reminds him of that. Yeah, it's called Trad Future, actually. Yes. It is, it's a podcast about how, unless we put all of our eggs in

1:05.2

this big Corbyn-shaped basket, the future is and will be trash. It's good, though, right? I've been asleep. I took a coma.

1:13.5

No, before we get into any more tomfoolery and guest introductions and stuff, I have something

1:19.4

important to tell everybody. We have shirts. We have sweaters. Clothe your nakedness.

1:24.4

Yeah. Or in TF merch. Listen to the tree of knowledge and then clothes your nakedness. Yeah. Or in T.F. Merch.

1:27.8

Listen to the tree of knowledge and then clothe your nakedness.

1:30.4

Hover your shame.

1:32.3

That's right.

1:33.0

At least the torso area of your shame.

1:35.5

We don't sell pants.

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