The Fable of the Bees
In Our Time
BBC
4.6 • 9.9K Ratings
🗓️ 25 October 2018
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss Bernard Mandeville (1670-1733) and his critique of the economy as he found it in London, where private vices were condemned without acknowledging their public benefit. In his poem The Grumbling Hive (1705), he presented an allegory in which the economy collapsed once knavish bees turned honest. When republished with a commentary, The Fable of the Bees was seen as a scandalous attack on Christian values and Mandeville was recommended for prosecution for his tendency to corrupt all morals. He kept writing, and his ideas went on to influence David Hume and Adam Smith, as well as Keynes and Hayek.
With
David Wootton Anniversary Professor of History at the University of York
Helen Paul Lecturer in Economics and Economic History at the University of Southampton
And
John Callanan Senior Lecturer in Philosophy at King’s College London
Producer: Simon Tillotson
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| 0:16.8 | Hello, Bernard Manderville, 1670 to 1733, scandalized the British establishment with his book, |
| 0:22.8 | Fable of the Bees, in which he argued that private vices were essential to a healthy economy. |
| 0:28.7 | Those who strive to make the world virtuous would make it poor, he said. |
| 0:32.4 | This honesty supports lawyers, who then support their tailors and their cooks, and gambling, |
| 0:37.0 | diversified money from those who don't know its value to those who do and can invest it wisely. |
| 0:41.9 | Many of our virtues, he wrote, are in fact disguised vices. |
| 0:46.6 | Manderville was one of the first to emphasize the role of the consumer in the economy rather |
| 0:50.6 | than the state. |
| 0:51.6 | And he was to influence ideas from Adam Smith in the 18th century to Keynes and Hayark in the |
| 0:56.2 | 20th. |
| 0:57.2 | Let me just discuss the favour of the Bees are David Wooden, Professor of History at |
| 1:00.8 | University of York, Helen Paul, lecturer in economics and economic history at the University |
| 1:05.4 | of Southampton and John Cullenen, Senior Lecture in Philosophy at King's College London. |
| 1:10.4 | David Wooden, what do we need to know about Bernard Manderville's early life in Rotterdam? |
| 1:14.9 | His father is a doctor. |
| 1:16.9 | He's raised in a city which is one of the commercial capitals of the world at the time and Holland |
| 1:23.1 | is one of the intellectual capitals of the world at the time. |
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