The Exploitation of Interns
Psychology In Seattle Podcast
Kirk Honda
4.5 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 3 November 2023
⏱️ 97 minutes
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00:00 Introducing Katie Jo Glaves & Marina Masaki
02:13 How does it feel to work for free?
07:10 How to stave off burn out
16:21 'Hazing' of new clinicians
23:23 What is the solution?
42:30 Is unionization important?
58:50 What is the value of paid internships?
1:13:15 The tough cases & being underpaid
1:31:22 What is the takeaway?
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November 3, 2023
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, deserving listeners, let me ask you a question. |
| 0:02.6 | Let's say that your boss or the government or somebody comes to you tomorrow and says that |
| 0:07.6 | for the next year of your life, you will not get paid for your full-time job. You still have to work, you still have to do |
| 0:14.5 | everything just like normal, but you will not get paid at all. No benefits. You might |
| 0:18.9 | even have to pay money to have the privilege to work at this job for free. How would you feel about it? |
| 0:24.7 | I hope would feel a grave injustice. But let's say that you quit, but the government says |
| 0:30.7 | no no no, no, I'm telling you, regardless of what job you work at, |
| 0:34.7 | you will have to work for free for the next year of your life. |
| 0:37.7 | Well, I would hope that you'd be upset. |
| 0:39.7 | And if your neighbors are like this, if a lot of people are experiencing this, a minority of people, |
| 0:44.4 | but still a group of people, I would like to think that you would all march in the streets and say, |
| 0:48.9 | hey, this is wrong. We have to change this. |
| 0:50.9 | You can't allow this. |
| 0:52.0 | There's laws against such thing. You can't force people to change this, you can't allow this. There's laws against such thing. You |
| 0:53.8 | can't force people to work for free. That's not okay. Well, what if I told you that |
| 0:59.0 | in my industry, as a therapist, that that's what we all do. Our very first year of working, |
| 1:05.8 | we work for free. And it's been this way for decades. And that is upsetting. And I want to find answers so I brought on two special guests to the |
| 1:16.5 | podcast to answer why this is and how do we change it so please introduce |
| 1:21.3 | yourself Katie Joe. |
| 1:22.8 | I'm Katie Joe Glaves. |
| 1:23.8 | I'm the clinical director at Proteo Wellness |
| 1:26.0 | of Child and Family Therapy. |
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