Hi everyone, it's Julia.

You might have heard that the experiment is a co-production from WNYC,

but you might not know that's actually where I started my journalism career

in the WNYC newsroom.

And I am joined today by an old friend, a former colleague in the WNYC newsroom,

Nancy Solomon. Hello, Nancy.

Hi, Julia.

So Nancy has a new podcast out and she is here to tell us about it.

I've been working on this thing for two years.

And I'm so excited to get other ears on it.

It's called Dead End, a New Jersey political murder mystery.

And it's the story about an unsolved killing of a politically connected couple.

And it's one family's attempt to get their parents' reputation back.

And the curious failure of the state to investigate.

It sounds fascinating, Nancy. I cannot wait to listen.

And I think you have a little sneak preview for us, right?

Some tape to play.

Yes, this is Ed Steer.

He's an investigative lawyer and he's very well known in New Jersey and New York legal circles

for taking on organized crime.

He was involved in the creation of the state criminal division that was set up

to investigate major crimes and criminal networks in New Jersey.

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