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Politics Unpacked

The Exit Interviews: George Eustice

Politics Unpacked

Anna Covell

News, Politics, News & Politics

4.11.4K Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2023

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Matt is back with the first episode in a new series, The Exit Interviews, sitting down with MPs leaving Parliament at the next election to talk about their highs and lows, their best and worst bosses, and the lessons they've learned from politics. Former cabinet secretary George Eustice worked on his family farm, stood for election for UKIP and went on to be press secretary to David Cameron. He talks about Brexit, trade deals, and why Liz Truss didn't listen to him.


Plus: Columnists Rachel Sylvester, Libby Purves and Paul Johnson discuss Rishi Sunak's speech about channel migrants, whether universities should have a legal duty of care for students, and how fair is our system of taxes?


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0:00.0

Hello, this is the Webbox Podcast. I'm Matt Surely. Many thanks to Patrick McGuire for

0:08.7

looking after the place last week, but I'm back for my holidays. I'm not going to get

0:12.8

into what I did while I was off, but I can assure you that it was unwise, but not illegal.

0:17.6

Right, coming up on today's episode, we kickstart a brand new series. It's called The Exit

0:23.1

Interviews. Already warning 12 MPs have said they're going to stand down at the next election.

0:28.4

So over the next few weeks, we're going to hear from some of them from a cross-party and

0:31.9

something made the cabinet or back benches and talking about why they're quitting.

0:36.0

And some of the highs and lows, the best and worst bosses. And that's what I think. We kick off

0:39.7

over the former cabinet, Mr George uses really, really fascinating chat about working with Dominic

0:43.6

Cummings, being Dominic Cameron's press secretary, arguing with Liz Truss when they were both

0:47.9

in the cabinet. So that's coming up in just a moment. But as ever, we kick off with the Columnist

0:52.1

panel. The Columnist with Libby Raichy, Libby Purvis and Rachel Silvester on Times Radio.

1:03.4

And Rachel Silvester's here in the studio. Hello, Rachel. Hi.

1:05.6

Hi. Well, that's the seat. Yeah. And Libby Purvis is here. Morning, Libby.

1:09.5

Morning. Now, here's a question. Is it fair for asylum seekers to have to share rooms?

1:16.7

Last week about 40 asylum seekers were offered space in a Pimlico hotel,

1:20.7

but they refused to enter it, after being asked to sleep for people per room.

1:26.4

It's caused a big rout. This is the immigration minister, Robert Genwick,

1:29.2

told the BBC about it yesterday. It's right that we get good value for money for the taxpayer.

1:33.6

And so if single adult males can share a room and it's legal to do so, which will obviously

1:40.9

depend on the size of the accommodation, then we'll ask people to do that. I think that's

1:46.0

a completely fair and reasonable approach. I will never put the interest of migrants

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