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The Rubin Report

The Exact Formula That Helped Hungary Beat 'Wokeness' | Rod Dreher | INTERNATIONAL | Rubin Report

The Rubin Report

Emma Dog Productions

News, News Commentary

4.614.2K Ratings

🗓️ 18 June 2023

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

Dave Rubin of "The Rubin Report" talks to Rod Dreher about why he moved to Hungary; why surviving communism has helped Hungarians see the danger of woke culture; how Viktor Orbán fought the woke agenda in institutions; the importance of using government power against wokeness; why Ron DeSantis may be the best bet to fighting wokeness in the U.S.; what Tucker Carlson sees in Hungary that is missing in the U.S.; and much more.


0:00 Intro

1:42 The Secret to Hungary's Success

5:10 Can DeSantis' Way Spread in America?

7:00 Behind the Left in Hungary

10:02 Ignoring the Media

11:15 A Message to Hungarian Visitors

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0:00.0

As people are going to figure out in about seven seconds, your accent is not Hungarian.

0:12.0

So what brings a guy like you to a country like this?

0:16.0

Well, I see the political future of conservatism in America is being worked out here in Hungary in Budapest.

0:24.0

And that's fascinating to me.

0:26.0

I first came to Budapest around 2018 on a book tour, but also I came a year later to do research for my book, Live Not by Lies,

0:35.0

which is about the message that people who survive communism in Europe, Soviet communism, the message they have for us in the west today

0:44.0

about the new softer totalitarianism that they see emerging.

0:49.0

And I thought it was really exaggerated when they first started telling me this about, I don't know, eight, nine years ago,

0:55.0

but the more I listened to them, I'm talking about America, these immigrants.

0:58.0

The more I listened to them, the more I realized they were seeing something that was completely oblivious.

1:04.0

We Americans were oblivious too.

1:06.0

And so I came to travel throughout the former Soviet block, Hungary, Poland, other countries, to talk to those who had stayed behind and were dissidents,

1:15.0

to find out what do we need to know.

1:17.0

And they're so sensible in this part of the world, and they really know to use a phrase what time it is.

1:23.0

So I thought, you know what, I want to live here and learn what I can from these people and try to bring the lessons that I've learned about politics and about culture and the fight we're in,

1:34.0

to try to make it better known to my own people back in America.

1:38.0

Plus it's just a great place to live.

1:40.0

Well, the view ain't bad from up here.

1:42.0

And what is it specifically though about Hungarians or Hungarian culture that seems to be leading this?

1:48.0

Because there's obviously plenty of other countries bordering right here that maybe aren't doing it quite as well.

1:52.0

There seems to be something happening right here.

1:54.0

The difference is Victor Orbán, the Prime Minister here.

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