Welcome back to Deeper with the Dolan twins. I'm your host Ethan and I'm your other host Grayson Dolan

I'm doing it better than you are. No, you're not you just left me with only my name to say well

That's all you leave me with all right. Well, let me pick up on this episode of deeper we have guest

Damien Mander a man who has done it all and by all we've done it all I mean every

Every amazing and highly accomplished thing that you could think of he has been a

Enable diver which is the Australian equivalent of a US Navy seal

Which when when Navy season tested here in America

There's a thousand people to begin with and only you know two or three

Make it and you know after experiencing that eat sleep and breathing that lifestyle to going back home and not being at war anymore

What that that shift was like for him we talk a little bit about systemic

toxic masculinity and how Damien has combated that in his life and how it was an issue for him early on and

We talk about how it led to becoming vegan and now owning an organization that gives

female's opportunities to be wildlife rangers. Yes, he he's doing a lot to combat the oppression of women

he's doing a lot to

defend vulnerable animals and

And he's an amazing man. We really appreciate the conversation that he came and had with us without further ado

Here's the episode

We appreciate you coming on. Yes, thanks a lot for joining us so how's the weather and Zimbabwe?

I'm intense and here at the moment. Yeah, it's all the same top 12 sticky. Is it is it consistently that like that all year round?

Like if you get up into the Zambizi Valley where we do a lot of our work. Yeah, it's pretty warm

Cooking think you guys are gonna hold Fahrenheit thing going on

I know so this is like 45 degrees

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