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Dr. Craig. Let's go to Gavin's second reason, the historical record. Clip number three.

Now some people say that real presence is the universal view throughout church history.

I think that's slightly overstated, but it is nearly unanimous.

Gavin acknowledges that there are nuances and debates among church leaders throughout history,

but he maintains that some species of real presence has been the dominant

view, Bill.

I think this is very misleading, Kevin, if not downright, false.

Of course, real presence became the dominant view after the Roman Catholic Church, condemned

people like Berengar in the 11th century for holding to a symbolic

view. But among the church fathers, there was a diversity of opinion about the real presence.

The historical theologian Gary Macy in his book, Theologies of the Eucharist,

calls the patristic period the origins of diversity. And then he characterizes the period

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