The EU’s envoy to Ukraine on war, resilience — and Nordic walking
Brussels Playbook Podcast
POLITICO
4.4 • 204 Ratings
🗓️ 20 February 2026
⏱️ 35 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Today's episode is presented by Nestay, the world's leading producer of sustainable aviation fuel and renewable diesel, which enable customers to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions. |
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| 0:15.0 | When a siren goes off in Kiev, people don't exactly freak out or even react all that much at all. They pause. |
| 0:24.3 | They assess. And then, sometimes, depending, they carry on. At the very end of my conversation |
| 0:32.5 | this week with the EU's ambassador to Ukraine, Katerina Materva, an air raid alarm began to sound outside her office. |
| 0:41.9 | She acknowledged it calmly and kept speaking. |
| 0:46.2 | She seemed more worried about the audio quality than anything else. |
| 0:50.4 | That tells you something about how people in Ukraine now live through this war. |
| 0:55.1 | This winter, people in Kiev have been enduring freezing temperatures while Russia targets energy infrastructure. |
| 1:01.7 | That means apartments without heat. Rolling blackouts. Families sleeping in one room, sometimes setting up tents indoors, just to keep warm. |
| 1:12.7 | And yet daily life continues. |
| 1:14.9 | Diplomatic work continues. |
| 1:16.9 | Political decisions continue. |
| 1:18.7 | The conversation about Ukraine's future continues, including EU membership. |
| 1:24.9 | As we approach another anniversary of the full-scale invasion next week, we wanted to understand these things better. |
| 1:32.1 | What does daily life in Kiev actually look like right now? |
| 1:36.0 | How resilient is Ukrainian morale? |
| 1:38.7 | What would peace talks mean from Keeves' perspective? |
| 1:43.9 | I'm Sarah Wheaton, host of EU Confidential. |
| 1:48.0 | Later in the episode, we'll turn to another debate, one shaped partly by Russia's war in Ukraine |
| 1:53.6 | and partly by growing uncertainty about the United States' long-term commitment to Europe. |
| 1:59.1 | It gained fresh urgency at the Munich Security Conference last weekend, |
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