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The Ethics of Genetically Editing Babies

The Daily

The New York Times

News, Daily News

4.3107.6K Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2018

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Ever since scientists created the powerful gene-editing technique Crispr, they have braced for the day when it would be used to produce a genetically altered human being. Now, the moment they feared may have come. What’s likely to happen next? We also look at the latest updates on a possible government shutdown. Guests: Jennifer Senior, an Op-Ed columnist for The New York Times, and Carl Zimmer, a science columnist for The Times. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. What do you think about "The Daily"? Please fill out our listener survey at nytimes.com/thedailysurvey.

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slash the daily survey. And thank you. From the New York Times on Michael Barbarale, this is the daily.

0:34.0

Today, ever since scientists created the powerful gene editing technique known as CRISPR,

0:41.8

they have braced for the day when it would be used to create a genetically altered human

0:46.7

gene. What's likely to happen now that it apparently has? And the latest on a possible

0:55.4

government shutdown. It's Wednesday, December 19th.

1:15.3

Like every family, my family has its share of messed up genes. We have autoimmune diseases,

1:21.3

we have cancer, we have conditions that are so obscure, they are known only by their weird

1:26.8

acronyms. And usually when you are walking around in the world, you are not thinking about this very

1:31.3

much. But the second that you decide to have a kid, of course, you do. Jen senior is a columnist at

1:37.6

the times. It's exactly what you're thinking about. All of these potential unwanted genetic

1:42.0

inheritances that you might pass along. So when I first heard about this technology several years ago

1:46.7

called CRISPR, I describe it as surgery for the cell. I was of course intrigued. You know,

1:53.9

it's sort of making precise changes to the code of life. Scientists say it could someday eliminate

1:59.5

inherited diseases. Because here was a way that you could potentially individually slice out all

2:04.8

of these culprit genes from your DNA. Means that we can control human evolution now, essentially

2:11.2

anything that is alive, we can manipulate the script. But of course, as a journalist and a skeptical

2:17.3

consumer of the news, I also understood all the concern. It opens the door to designer babies.

2:23.7

Many scientists, including CRISPR's developer Jennifer Daudner, are calling for a moratorium

2:28.5

on its use in humans. The technology was new. It was crude. And are we wise enough to tame ourselves

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