The following podcast contains accounts of child sexual assault.

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Tara Brown, senior reporter for 60 minutes, joins us to unpack the Epstein Files.

We focus on her documentary, The Reckoning Inside the Epstein Files, exploring the network

and influence of Jeffrey Epstein, the experience of survivors and the fallout after his death.

That documentary is available on Nine Now and also on Stan. In exciting news for us, this interview

will also air nationally on our brand new Kiss FM radio show.

It's called True Crime Tonight and it's on every Sunday around Australia at 6pm.

This is Australian True Crime.

We acknowledge the traditional owners of the land on which this podcast is created.

The Warranguri Woi Warrang people of the Koolan Nation.

I too felt completely overwhelmed by the information coming at us and I don't want to make

it sound like it's an explainer but in a way that's what it evolved into. We certainly couldn't

cover everything that had been dumped

in the Epstein files. But it was just to try and get an understanding of it. And I was on that,

I hate the phrase, but that journey myself, you know, it was like, what, what, and the horror

of the Epstein saga, crime, is that so much of what seems outlandish is actually quite believable.

Right.

Absolutely.

My, my daughter is saying to me, she's 16 and gets all of her information from TikTok, and she's saying to me, you know, they killed children.

They killed babies.

And I'm saying, darling, no, I don't believe that.

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