but are deb, blah, blah, all right, we'll start this in three, two, one.

And we are recording on Thursday, February 19th, 2020, 6 at 225 p.m. Eastern Time with Colonel

Watkins and Mr. William Ramsey and talking about really, you know, a very broad topic,

all things, all things Epstein but to and for everybody

listening please go to the description please go follow the twitter's you can and you can find all of the

links to mr ramby's books as well as your podcast um could you just as is kind of jumping off

point well could you say what you're just saying to us about how you know it's been very clear that

you know ban and epstein are absolutely chummy but i didn't know that you said there was a i guess talk of an

invite and then a couple months before he got arrested it seems like it either fell through or banon didn't

go it's it's you know are you starting to go oh something might be a fucked here. I think he knew like something was going on, something darker.

There were communications between Bannon and Epstein going from 2018 all the way,

as far as I could tell to May or June of 2019, so right before he was arrested in July.

And there was, there's definitely emails between him.

His scheduling person was trying, got, got Bannon's, um, a passport. So it got all the way

to getting the passport for Bannon to fly to Little St. James in early May. And then they

seemed to be, then there was an email I saw that said cancel Steve Bannon.

And I can't find too many stuff after, too many communication after that.

But before, it's almost like they were communicating on a daily basis through I message

and real inside baseball stuff and kind of a lot of sophisticated stuff.

There's Epstein nude NLP.

He knew Ericksonian hypnosis.

He understood how to presuppose ideas into people's face, into people's minds, excuse me.

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