Hey folks, Joyce Vance here. Preet and I are out with a new episode of The Insider podcast.

First, we discussed the drama surrounding the Epstein files released last week by the House Oversight Committee, which referenced President Trump.

Then we break down to magistrate judge's opinion in the Comey prosecution, criticizing DOJ for possible government misconduct that could lead to a dismissal

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So now you get to a point where there's a congressional measure to force the release of all sorts of unreleased, undisclosed Epstein documents that has been opposed by the sitting president of United States, all of whose base have been clamoring for the release of those documents for years.

What's up with that?

Yeah, I mean, gaslighting Gambit maybe characterizes the entire exercise because Donald Trump has paid lip service to releasing the files.

He did it during the campaign.

And then we learn, I think it's July 7,

where Pam Bondi announces that the Epstein investigation is being closed, that there was no evidence supporting additional charges being brought against any third parties.

And so that's her assessment of the files.

And there's some reporting around that time that I'm sure people recall that they had advised Trump that his name had surfaced in the files. And there's some reporting around that time that I'm sure people recall that they

had advised Trump that his name had surfaced in the files and that this was maybe part and parcel of

ending the investigation. And then the administration does that about face, as you say. And what I

think, just to cut straight to the chase here, right? What's happening is Trump is now supporting release of the files, knowing that having directed Pam Bondi to reopen an investigation only into Democrats who were named, that DOJ will assert to Congress that it can't release the files because it has an ongoing investigation.

I'm just at such a loss as how you can explain that. On the one hand, the Trump folks just want

to persecute, harass, prosecute, imprison Democrats. On the other hand, they don't want documents

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