The Epstein Curse Refuses to Die + A Conversation with Michael Wolff (Originally Aired 7/17/25)
Mea Culpa
Michael Cohen
4.8 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 28 November 2025
⏱️ 78 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Have you ever wondered what a sandwich sounds like? |
| 0:03.0 | Not much to it is there? |
| 0:06.0 | Unless of course it's a Walker's sandwich. |
| 0:09.0 | Mmm, that is good. |
| 0:13.0 | Now that's what Asani should sound like. |
| 0:15.0 | Go all crisp in with walkers. |
| 0:18.0 | Delicious. |
| 0:20.0 | This is my meaoka Oh baby don't laugh with Walters. Delicious. Thanksgiving has always struck me as one of America's great paradoxes. On the surface, |
| 0:41.3 | it's a day built around gratitude, an intentional pause, a collective breath, a reminder that even |
| 0:49.3 | in turbulent times, we can gather, reconnect, and acknowledge what we still have. But beneath that, Thanksgiving |
| 0:57.1 | has always carried another function. It's the one day when the truth, and I mean real truth, |
| 1:02.6 | tends to slip out. Families sit together, walls come down, old stories resurface, and suddenly, |
| 1:10.1 | the things nobody wanted to talk about |
| 1:12.1 | become the only things anyone can talk about. I lived enough life, made enough mistakes, |
| 1:18.8 | and interrogated enough powerful people to know this. Sooner or later, truth demands its moment. |
| 1:26.4 | And that's why today's episode feels so fitting for this holiday. |
| 1:30.3 | It's not light. It's not simple. And it's not wrapped in a neat patriotic bow. |
| 1:36.3 | But it is honest because weeks ago, long before the newest batch of documents and leaks and whispered testimonies, I sat down with |
| 1:45.6 | journalist Michael Wolfe for a conversation that I knew at the time mattered, but I didn't |
| 1:51.1 | realize just how sharply it would align with everything breaking now. |
| 1:56.3 | You'd have one of those moments where something you said, something you tried to warn about, suddenly |
| 2:01.7 | take shape right in front of you? That's what listening back to this episode felt like. Michael |
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