Andy talks to DeRay Mckesson about another epidemic sweeping the country — violence by the police against Black people. They talk data and policy solutions, and DeRay provides a personal and comprehensive view of what’s been going on across the country in the wake of George Floyd’s murder at the hands of the Minneapolis police. Then Andy calls disability activist Sinéad Burke in Ireland to provide a global perspective on militarized police and what we can learn about disability and accessibility in a pandemic.

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DeRay and Sinéad shared so many resources in this episode! Follow up on those leads:

- Visit Campaign Zero at https://www.joincampaignzero.org and check out their new initiative to clarify the eight things that need to happen to demilitarize the police at #8can’twait and www.useofforceproject.org/#project

- Examine the data on police violence for yourself. DeRay is a creator of www.mappingpoliceviolence.org, the most comprehensive database of police violence in the country. In this episode, DeRay also talked about the Washington Post police shootings database (https://wapo.st/2XUK6uP) and the Fatal Encounters database (www.fatalencounters.org)

- Want more from Deray? Pick up a copy of his book at https://deray.com/

- Watch Sinéad’s TED Talk:

https://www.ted.com/talks/Sinéad_burke_why_design_should_include_everyone?language=en

- Who gets medical care? https://nyti.ms/3gGTzhQ, https://nyti.ms/2MpCNGk, and https://unitedstatesofcare.org/blog/covid-19-doesnt-discriminate-neither-care/

- The Ruderman Family Foundation (https://rudermanfoundation.org/) published a report on disability and police violence: https://bit.ly/2U3Wg3r

- Follow Rebecca Cokley @RebeccaCokley, Leah Katz-Hernandez @leahkh, Maria Town @maria_m_town, Imani Barbarin @Imani_Barbarin, Tinu @Tinu, TheDisabilityEnthusiast @twitchyspoonie, Vilissa Thompson @VilissaThompson, Keah Brown @Keah_Maria, Alice Wong @SFdirewolf, Mia Mingus @miamingus (and follow #disabilitysowhite & #disabledblacktalk)

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