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The Brian Lehrer Show

The Environmental Protection Agency Flips on Greenhouse Gases

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

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4.71.4K Ratings

🗓️ 29 July 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Jake Spring, Climate Reporter at The Washington Post, discusses why the EPA is proposing to rescind the "endangerment finding", which justified regulation of greenhouse gases.

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0:00.0

Brian there on WNYC as we continue with the Health and Climate Tuesday section of the show.

0:16.3

We were obviously just talking about public health in the context of the new cane sugar switch for some

0:25.5

Coke products at the request of the Trump administration.

0:29.9

Now we'll talk about a major development in U.S. climate policy.

0:33.8

The Environmental Protection Agency is drafting a proposal to rescind its landmark 2009

0:40.9

endangerment finding, as it's called, which concluded that greenhouse gas emissions endanger

0:46.4

public health and welfare. That finding has been the legal foundation for regulating emissions

0:51.0

from vehicles, power plants, and other major sources of pollution under the

0:55.7

Clean Air Act. This report comes from the Washington Post, among others, who cites sources in

1:02.3

advance of a formal announcement, which we're told could come today. If the proposal goes forward,

1:08.0

it could dismantle many of the countries existing climate rules and call

1:11.8

into question whether the federal government will continue regulating greenhouse gas emissions at all.

1:17.7

EPA administrator Lee Zeldin and the Trump administration argue the original finding is outdated,

1:23.5

too costly, and was never explicitly required by Congress as part of the Clean Air Act.

1:30.0

But climate scientists and environmental advocates call this a dangerous rollback that ignores overwhelming evidence about the risks of climate change.

1:38.7

Washington Post, Climate and Environment Enterprise reporter Jake Spring is on this story,

1:45.6

and he joins us to explain what's at stake and how this fits into the administration's broader deregulation push.

1:50.6

Jake, thanks for coming on today. Welcome back to WNYC.

1:54.1

Hi, Brian. Thanks for having me on. It's a pleasure.

1:56.9

First, can you explain the 2009 endangerment finding under the Clean Air Act?

2:04.2

What was that?

2:06.2

The endangerment finding basically found that greenhouse gases endangerment

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