The Entrepreneur's Regret: Success Without Sacrificing Your Family featuring Mat Lewczenko
The Dad Edge Podcast
Larry Hagner
4.8 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 16 February 2026
⏱️ 68 minutes
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Summary
In this powerful conversation, I sit down with Mat Lewczenko — entrepreneur, coach, and author of The Entrepreneur's Regret — to unpack what it feels like to be winning on paper while quietly losing at home. Mat shares his story of growing up as a Polish political refugee, building success through grit and discipline, and eventually finding himself at the top of his professional game… but emotionally empty, disconnected, and on the verge of self-sabotage.
We talk about the silent epidemic facing high-performing entrepreneurs — entrepreneurial drift — and what it takes to reclaim your nights, weekends, relationships, and sanity. This episode is a wake-up call for any man chasing more while feeling less.
Timeline Summary
[0:00] The concept of "Rock Top" — succeeding outwardly while unraveling inwardly
[1:41] Mat's family escaping Poland as political refugees before martial law
[3:02] Growing up in an immigrant household built on pride, discipline, and ownership
[10:10] Early lessons on earning what you want and respecting what you own
[17:47] The tension between giving kids a better life without raising them soft
[24:58] Mat's pivot from theater professor to real estate entrepreneur
[30:29] The breaking point — winning at work while losing at home
[31:31] The porch conversation where his wife said, "You don't get to do this"
[35:29] Realizing he couldn't even name his core values
[36:33] The North Star Values process and regaining alignment
[40:52] The three pillars — Leadership, Love, and Life
[41:30] Why being "all in" where you are eliminates guilt and fragmentation
[45:28] The danger of climbing the wrong mountain
[47:06] Why you must go back through the clouds to choose a new summit
[54:28] Small hinges swing big doors — 15 intentional minutes a day
[58:32] Presence over presents — how to win back connection at home
Five Key Takeaways
- Rock Top is real — you can be crushing it professionally while quietly collapsing personally.
- Clarity of core values simplifies decision-making and eliminates internal friction.
- Entrepreneurial drift happens gradually, then suddenly — awareness must come before crisis.
- Being fully present where you are removes guilt and fragmentation.
- Small, consistent intentional actions create massive relational change.
Links & Resources
- The Dad Edge Business Boardroom: https://thedadedge.com/mastermind
- Mat Lewczenko on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mat-lewczenko/
- Mat Lewczenko on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mat.lewczenko/?hl=en
- Mat's Podcast (Buzzsprout): https://www.buzzsprout.com/1956169/episodes
- Mat Lewczenko — Additional Resource: https://ifgrxppecbxjqjkoyvl7.app.clientclub.net/courses/offers/82985e7c-be3c-41c2-b004-8e703e688431?fbclid=IwRlRTSAP-xitleHRuA2FlbQIxMABzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEe9kqpb3eiIFwdvocjWzIhjjxamujPzRooAIcu6RVT7W6_R-3B3c7XJyb5y5Q_aem_pxafoSiJqIhIG7u_vMzVeQ
- Mat's Book – https://a.co/d/02QOVPcr
- Episode Show Notes & Resources: https://thedadedge.com/1440
Closing Remark
If you're climbing fast but feeling empty at the top, this episode is your invitation to reassess the mountain you're on. You don't have to lose your family to win in business. If this conversation hit home, please rate, review, follow, and share the podcast. Let's build success that we don't regret.
From my heart to yours — go out and live legendary.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Dad Edge podcast. The Dad Edge movement creates leaders of men, leaders of families, and leaders of communities. We will not only impact this generation of fathers, but the next generation as well. The kids we are raising will have better chances and odds stacked in their favor because of the amazing example |
| 0:21.2 | that their fathers emulated for them. We are here to change the world. We are here to change |
| 0:27.6 | relationships. We are here to positively disrupt this generation of fathers so no man goes to their |
| 0:33.6 | grave with regret. We disrupt the drift of busyness and replace it with razor-focused intention, |
| 0:40.3 | passion, purpose, and direction. |
| 0:43.7 | We are the Dad Edge, |
| 0:45.7 | and we're here to change the game. |
| 0:47.8 | We're here to change the game. |
| 1:12.2 | I don't know. You guys ever heard of the term rock top. Yes, rock top as in rock as in rocks and then top as in the top of the mountain today was actually the first time i heard that quote and i've never heard that before and today it hit me in the heart |
| 1:18.4 | big time i'm not even going to lie we've all heard of rock bottom but what the heck is rock top |
| 1:23.5 | especially if you're a successful business owner, especially if everything on paper shows |
| 1:27.7 | that you're succeeding. That's what today's show is all about. That's what we're getting into |
| 1:33.0 | today. Gentlemen, I am interviewing today a man by the name of Matt Lefchenko. Matt's story is |
| 1:40.2 | absolutely unreal. His family escaped Poland as political refugees just two weeks before |
| 1:46.7 | martial law back in 1982. They went through Germany. They spent six months in an immigration |
| 1:52.8 | camp in Austria and then they rebuilt their lives in the United States. He grew up in a hardworking |
| 1:59.6 | immigrant home where pride, were disciplined and taking care of what you own was an absolute non-negotiable. |
| 2:07.5 | This foundation, it shaped him into the kind of man he is now, which he is a grinder, he builds, and he wins. |
| 2:14.0 | Matt is also the best-selling author of The Entrepreneur's Regret, Your Guide to Having It All Without Risking It All, which is the exact reason I had him on the show today. |
| 2:24.4 | Everything he talked about hit me in the heart big time. |
| 2:27.9 | And if you're a business owner, this show is definitely for you today. |
| 2:31.8 | But here's where it gets real. |
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