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'The Engagement' looks at the complicated history of marriage equality

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Arts, Books

4.2671 Ratings

🗓️ 19 January 2022

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

Journalist and author Sasha Issenberg has written a book about the history of marriage equality in America. The Engagement details how messy and complicated this fight was at times. Issenberg told NPR's Danielle Kurtzleben that within the LGBT community, there were, and are, many different policy concerns that didn't always gel. Marriage ended up being a top priority for some but not everyone agreed it should be.

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0:00.0

Hey, it's NPR's Book of the Day. I'm Andrew Limbaugh. Do you like book clubs? I'm just asking

0:08.2

something tells me that if you're listening to this, you might be a book club type person.

0:13.8

Well, if you are, the folks over at NPR Politics have a regular book club series where they pick a book and talk about it in their Facebook group and, you know, do an interview with the author.

0:23.0

We want that to play you a recent installment, and don't worry, like any decent book club,

0:27.1

it's okay if you haven't read it.

0:29.3

It's an interview with journalist Sasha Eisenberg about his book, The Engagement,

0:34.0

which traces the history of marriage equality in the U.S.

0:37.8

And he tells NPR's Daniel Kurtzleben about the internal struggle among LGBT people to even agree that marriage equality was a fight worth having.

0:47.2

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0:52.0

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0:56.6

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0:58.6

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1:01.9

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1:06.2

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1:12.4

Hey there, it is the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm Danielle Kurtzleben. I cover demographics and culture.

1:18.2

And today, we are doing another installment of our book club series. And we're talking about a book

1:23.3

that's about both demographics and culture. Sasha Eisenberg's The Engagement is an exhaustive,

1:29.5

deep, really kind of monumental look at the long road to marriage equality in the United States,

1:35.9

from its early beginnings in places like Hawaii and Massachusetts, to the landmark 2015 Supreme

1:41.7

Court ruling that made same-sex marriage legal across the country.

1:46.0

As with all of our book club picks, we have read this book along with you, and we have discussed it in our podcast Facebook group.

1:52.6

And today, I have the privilege of posing your questions and mine to Sasha Eisenberg.

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