The Enemy Within
Case in Point: The Legal Show on the Hottest Legal Cases in Politics and Culture
The Heritage Foundation
4.5 • 527 Ratings
🗓️ 25 September 2025
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
Guest is Robert Alt, president and CEO of the Buckeye Institute, Ohio’s premier think tank, discussing Buckeye’s lawsuit against the IRS and the dangers posed to the privacy of the public by IRS regulations and mishandling of taxpayer information. He also discusses his experience as a mountain climber and his recent ascent of Mt. Everest in the Himalayas.
Classic movie review of “Lost Horizon,” the 1937 Frank Capra film about a hidden city in the Himalayas.
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| 0:00.0 | Right is still right, even if you stand by yourself. |
| 0:04.8 | Mr. Chief Justice, may it place the court. |
| 0:08.6 | This is Hans von Spikovsky, and you're listening to Case and Point, |
| 0:12.2 | and our title today is The Enemy Within, |
| 0:15.4 | and I will admit I stole that from a 1994 made for a TV movie. |
| 0:22.0 | I think most people will recall that during the Obama administration, |
| 0:27.4 | Lois Lerner, who worked at the IRS, |
| 0:29.9 | was found who have been targeting conservative organizations |
| 0:35.2 | that disagreed with the president's policies or were vocal critics |
| 0:40.8 | of the president's policies. That was not the first time. The IRS has been used in that way |
| 0:49.2 | by a president. A lot of people may have forgotten the fact that Franklin Delano Roosevelt, there are substantial evidence that he used what was then the IRS. |
| 1:00.3 | It was known as the Bureau of Internal Revenue in exactly the same way that he used that particular tax bureau to target his political opponents, political enemies, and vocal critics of FDR. |
| 1:16.6 | And unfortunately, he got away with it. |
| 1:19.6 | When it came to the Obama administration, they didn't. |
| 1:22.6 | It was found out. There were court cases. |
| 1:24.6 | There was an inspector general report. But that shows the |
| 1:28.5 | kind of problems you have with an agency, which is one of the most powerful agencies within the |
| 1:35.7 | federal government, one that if it comes after you, can bankrupt you, put you in jail, totally |
| 1:41.9 | ruin your life. Here to talk about that and some other really |
| 1:47.2 | interesting things today is my longtime friend, Robert Alt, who is the head of the Buckeye Institute, |
| 1:55.6 | really one of the premier state-based policy institutes in Ohio. |
| 2:02.0 | Robert and I used to work together because it used to be the second in command of the |
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