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The Lawfare Podcast

The Endless Frontier Act and the Whims of Congress

The Lawfare Podcast

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 26 May 2021

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

The Endless Frontier Act—a piece of legislation that you may have never heard of but is nonetheless very important—is going through Congress, and it is changing as it goes through. It's a complicated piece of legislation intended to boost U.S. research and development and help bolster U.S. competition with China, and what happened to it in Congress is not at all straightforward. To talk through exactly what the Endless Frontier Act is, how it made its way through Congress and what this all reveals about the way that Congress does its business, Jacob Schulz sat down with Jordan Schneider, the host of the ChinaTalk podcast and an analyst with the Rhodium Group, and Molly Reynolds, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and a senior editor at Lawfare.

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you there and doing more of the same.

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Unfortunately, it seems like Endless Frontier has turned into.

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