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Patreon dot com slash the Katie helper show on this episode I speak to Alex Vitali the author of the end of policing as well as New York congressional candidates Isaiah James and Pete Harrison.

Isaiah James is a Democratic congressional candidate for New York's 9th district.

He's a community organizer, activists, Army veteran, and is 100%

people-powered. Peter Harrison is running in New York's 12th district. He's a housing

activist, Democratic socialist,

puny adjunct. And their elections are June 23rd, so make sure you vote.

This week's patron is really good and includes an interview with Nando Vila, as well as an interview with Max Blumenthal

about John Bolton and what it's like to be retweeted by Donald Trump.

I'm very excited to have with us a repeat offender. Oh no pun intended.

Repeat guest Alex Vatali who is a professor of sociology at Brooklyn College.

He's also the author of The End of Policing and he's the

coordinator of the Policing and Social Justice Project. Policing and

Social College Project at Brooklyn College. So thank you so much for joining us.

You bet, Katie.

When I interviewed you a couple years ago for the first time,

it's not like I thought it was a work of science fiction,

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