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THE EMPRESS Nur Jahan

What'sHerName

Dr. Katie Nelson and Olivia Meikle

Society & Culture, Documentary, History

4.8538 Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2018

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Nur Jahan was the only Empress in the history of the Mughal Empire. Reigning as an equal with her husband Jahangir, she was the only woman to issue executive orders, mint coins, or lead an army — and her tiger-hunting skills were legendary. Though she was one of the most influential leaders in 17th century Asia, for centuries her legacy has been reduced to a love story that ends where her real adventure began–at her marriage to Emperor Jahangir. With our guest Dr. Ruby Lal, author of the new book Empress: The Astonishing Reign of Nur Jahan, we discover the incredible life of this enigmatic and influential ruler. Guest Ruby Lal is Professor of South Asian Studies at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia. She holds a D.Phil. in Modern History from the University of Oxford, UK, and an M.Phil in History from the University of Delhi, India. Her narrative history Empress: The Astonishing Reign of Nur Jahan, was published in 2018. Her first two books were Domesticity and Power in the Early Mughal World and Coming of Age in Nineteenth Century India: The Girl-Child and the Art of Playfulness, both from Cambridge University Press. Olivia’s interview with Ruby Lal was recorded on location at the 2018 Jaipur Literature Festival at the Boulder Public Library. Music featured in this episode provided by Navatman Music Collective, Ashok Pathak, and Vinod Prasanna, Okey Szoke & Pompey. Want to help us “make history”? Become a Patron or Donate here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Now, are all the traitors present?

0:02.5

Let's get started, shall we?

0:04.5

From rags to riches.

0:05.8

I'm so sick of this.

0:07.0

Working like a dog and being treated worse.

0:09.1

Yorkshire to New York.

0:10.7

Or climbers, you and me.

0:12.4

A life dedicated to revenge.

0:14.4

Let's make this an occasion to remember.

0:16.9

A woman of substance on Channel 4.

0:19.1

Stream now.

0:19.8

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0:22.7

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0:25.1

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0:28.6

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0:30.0

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0:34.0

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1:00.7

Hi, Katie. Hi, Olivia. Today I want to talk about stories. Oh, my favorite. I literally just said to Mark yesterday, humanity is stories. That's what it is to be human.

1:11.6

I agree. Ah! The story is the thing. Yeah. What happened is much less important than how we storify it.

1:29.3

So we've talked a little in the podcast already about the importance of stories as a way to access history, as a way to keep people alive, as a way to interest people in things that they otherwise might not be interested in.

1:40.7

You have this special gift for finding the story that is interesting in things that most people would not ever be able to find something interesting in.

1:47.8

You will be interested in this and I will find a way to make you interested in this.

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